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Smith Fowler information
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I have a flintlock fowler and I am wondering if anyone can shed light on its age. The lockplate is engraved SMITH. There is no engraving on the top of the barrel. The underside of the barrel is proofed with pre 1813 London proofs and is stamped "TWISTED STUBBS" and the number 25. The vent is gold bushed.  The engraving on the plate seems to be very similar to guns made by William Smith. Thank you for any information that you can pass on.

Mike
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It looks a very nice, and clean piece, Mmcalc.

By the stocking up, furniture and lock, I'd say right around the 1810 period. Very nice to see the stub twist barrel looking so nice on the underside.
I have a pistol with lock marked very like this, but which Smith it is for sure I know not.
Also have a double flint with very similar furniture and style of lock. (French cocks and roller frizzens, but Lock unmarked) and it is hallmarked for 1811, but of course the silver could have lain under the bench a year or so before being used.

I note that you too are a new member, so Welcome from one newcomer to another. LOL!

Best regards,
Richard.
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(03-11-2017, 02:52 AM)Pukka Bundook Wrote: It looks a very nice,  and clean piece, Mmcalc.

By the stocking up, furniture and lock, I'd say right around the 1810 period.  Very nice to see the stub twist barrel looking so nice on the underside.
I have a pistol with lock marked very like this, but which Smith it is for sure I know not.
Also have a double flint with very similar furniture and style of lock. (French cocks and roller frizzens, but Lock unmarked)  and it is hallmarked for 1811, but of course the silver  could have lain under the bench a year or so before being used.

I note that you too are a new member, so Welcome from one newcomer to another.  LOL!

Best regards,
Richard.
Richard,

Thank you and welcome as well!!

I need to make the missing ramrod pipe and fit it. It is early 1810's I believe. I have read they got away from gold bushings around 1805 if I am not mistaken. The ramrod seems to be ebony, which I find unusual. It is also set up for a left handed shooter, as it has cast on.

Mike
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Thanks for the welcome Mike!
Yes, things didn't change very fast back then so a gun from 1805 -1815 was often very much the same.
The gold lined touchhole Should be before or up to about 1805 -ish, and this gun may well be from then. Come to think of it, mine has platinum liners so that fits!
I don't have photos saved of mine for comparison, but it looks very close in other ways, except it is a bit archaic maybee, in retaining the cheek piece which was on its way out by then.
'25' should be the bore, I'd imagine. Does that seem right?
Do the ramrod pipes have a lip at the ends?
At your leasure, I'd like to see the guts of the lock sometime. :-)

Best regards,
Richard.
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